Comments for The Marriage Library http://www.marriagelibrary.org Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:17:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on What’s wrong with lesbian parenting studies by Albert Bruecken http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2012/01/whats-wrong-with-lesbian-parenting-studies/comment-page-1/#comment-2134 Albert Bruecken Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:17:39 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=1247#comment-2134 It is most helpful to see a critique of the studies that psychologists quote when they say that children are at least just as happy with SSA parents as with man-woman parents. Are they all "scientific studies" which are not scientific? How does something like this get by editorial boards? I wish it were that easy to publish in my field of chemistry. On second thought, I really don't. It is most helpful to see a critique of the studies that psychologists quote when they say that children are at least just as happy with SSA parents as with man-woman parents. Are they all “scientific studies” which are not scientific? How does something like this get by editorial boards? I wish it were that easy to publish in my field of chemistry. On second thought, I really don’t.

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Comment on Dr. Morse’s testimony to MN Senate Judiciary by Rich http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2011/05/dr-morse%e2%80%99s-testimony-to-mn-senate-judiciary/comment-page-1/#comment-1843 Rich Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:50:45 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=1110#comment-1843 Thank you, Dr. Morse, for your advocacy of a position that is getting drown out in too many circles. On the EWTN Minnesota affiliate, I have twice listened to your taped presentation of the impact of gay marriage on children and society and you have really helped open my eyes to some of the implications and consequences that too few people realize. I live in Minnesota and within the last week a young man (about 30 years old) came to my door asking me to sign a statement and make a donation to oppose the Marriage Amendment in Minnesota. I told him that I supported the definition of marriage as between one man and one woman. He said that this was a misuse of the Constitution, that it has always been used to expand people's rights, not remove them. I told him I was no Constitutional Lawyer but that I understand the Constitution as supporting the good of society. I also asked him if he considered marriage a right. He said yes. Was having children a right? He said yes. Is abortion a right? He said yes. I was trying to ask him if children had any rights to know their biological parents but he started talking about how the marriage amendment attacked equality and then brought up divorce and Kim Kardasian and what a total joke she makes of marriage. I said that, just because someone runs a stop sign, it does not mean that the stop sign is a bad thing. Just because someone misuses something, it does not mean the thing itself is wrong. He then said, "Do you believe God made gays and lesbians?" "Yes," I replied. He said, "How many more gays and lesbians will God have to make before you accept them as equal?" He repeated this several times and it was getting more difficult to get a word in edgewise so I (probably foolishly) blurted out "Penn State." He kept talking so I said again "Penn State." He finally asked me to what I was referring and I said, "Did you hear about the assistant football coach? He was a pedophile. God created people with pedophilia inclinations, too. I don't know why God creates certain things but I don't believe God wants us to act on all of our impulses." The man then argued that Jesus accepted all people, to which I tried to reply that the Gospels do not portray Jesus as accepting of all behavior. Then the man interjected that the New Testament preached acceptance, to which I asked, "Are you saying the New Testament does not reject homosexual behavior?" I was about to ask him his understanding of the first chapter of Romans but, as I recall, he started saying things about, "If you want to live in a theocracy, then maybe you should move" (or something along those lines). He also was making claims that the Marriage Amendment was overturning a fundamental right upon which our country was founded. I asked him if marriage between same sex couples had always been a right in the United States since the 18th century. He said something like, "Yes, in some states" -- at least, I think this is what he said. I was curious what states had gay marriage for the last 200 years but he (in an increasingly agitated voice) asked me, "Are you high? Are you high or something?" (Just an fyi that I am 53 years old and I don't think I have ever been asked that question before.) At this point, I was quickly realizing that our conversation had reached an impasse so I wished him a good evening and, at that point, he turned his back on me and walked away muttering things that I am frankly very grateful that I could not make out. (To his credit, he did not kick my car which was in the driveway.) That night, I was a rather clumsy apologist for a position that I might not have even tried (or desired) to defend just a few months ago. However, thanks to you, Dr. Morse, I was able to ask a few questions of the man who came to my door. But I do not have the expertise to debate the "findings" -- i.e. to argue what constitutes legitimate studies from "junk science." Dr. Morse, your voice and acumen in this discussion are critical. Please keep speaking out and publishing. And thank you again. -- Rich from Minnesota Thank you, Dr. Morse, for your advocacy of a position that is getting drown out in too many circles. On the EWTN Minnesota affiliate, I have twice listened to your taped presentation of the impact of gay marriage on children and society and you have really helped open my eyes to some of the implications and consequences that too few people realize.
I live in Minnesota and within the last week a young man (about 30 years old) came to my door asking me to sign a statement and make a donation to oppose the Marriage Amendment in Minnesota. I told him that I supported the definition of marriage as between one man and one woman. He said that this was a misuse of the Constitution, that it has always been used to expand people’s rights, not remove them. I told him I was no Constitutional Lawyer but that I understand the Constitution as supporting the good of society. I also asked him if he considered marriage a right. He said yes. Was having children a right? He said yes. Is abortion a right? He said yes. I was trying to ask him if children had any rights to know their biological parents but he started talking about how the marriage amendment attacked equality and then brought up divorce and Kim Kardasian and what a total joke she makes of marriage. I said that, just because someone runs a stop sign, it does not mean that the stop sign is a bad thing. Just because someone misuses something, it does not mean the thing itself is wrong. He then said, “Do you believe God made gays and lesbians?” “Yes,” I replied. He said, “How many more gays and lesbians will God have to make before you accept them as equal?” He repeated this several times and it was getting more difficult to get a word in edgewise so I (probably foolishly) blurted out “Penn State.” He kept talking so I said again “Penn State.” He finally asked me to what I was referring and I said, “Did you hear about the assistant football coach? He was a pedophile. God created people with pedophilia inclinations, too. I don’t know why God creates certain things but I don’t believe God wants us to act on all of our impulses.” The man then argued that Jesus accepted all people, to which I tried to reply that the Gospels do not portray Jesus as accepting of all behavior. Then the man interjected that the New Testament preached acceptance, to which I asked, “Are you saying the New Testament does not reject homosexual behavior?” I was about to ask him his understanding of the first chapter of Romans but, as I recall, he started saying things about, “If you want to live in a theocracy, then maybe you should move” (or something along those lines). He also was making claims that the Marriage Amendment was overturning a fundamental right upon which our country was founded. I asked him if marriage between same sex couples had always been a right in the United States since the 18th century. He said something like, “Yes, in some states” — at least, I think this is what he said. I was curious what states had gay marriage for the last 200 years but he (in an increasingly agitated voice) asked me, “Are you high? Are you high or something?” (Just an fyi that I am 53 years old and I don’t think I have ever been asked that question before.) At this point, I was quickly realizing that our conversation had reached an impasse so I wished him a good evening and, at that point, he turned his back on me and walked away muttering things that I am frankly very grateful that I could not make out. (To his credit, he did not kick my car which was in the driveway.)
That night, I was a rather clumsy apologist for a position that I might not have even tried (or desired) to defend just a few months ago. However, thanks to you, Dr. Morse, I was able to ask a few questions of the man who came to my door. But I do not have the expertise to debate the “findings” — i.e. to argue what constitutes legitimate studies from “junk science.” Dr. Morse, your voice and acumen in this discussion are critical. Please keep speaking out and publishing.
And thank you again.

— Rich from Minnesota

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Comment on Red Families v. Blue Families by Tyler http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2010/09/red-families-v-blue-families/comment-page-1/#comment-1791 Tyler Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:57:19 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=974#comment-1791 Lily H, You fail to understand one of the main points Prof. Roback Morse was making: that for marriage to work at any age it needs to be supported. The only reason marriage is successful for older woman is because marriage is still acceptable for women of this age!! (Furthermore, Prof. Roback Morse suggested that Wal-Mart checker should help the future hubby manage the finances. You should read the article again more carefully. I think you will find the article very fair and insightful.) It is absolutely hilarious that the Cahn and Carbone article is suggesting that the the statistics on the state of marriage are an implied "good" by saying that: "The college educated, who postpone childrearing until the parents achieve a measure of financial self-sufficiency and emotional maturity, have become more likely to marry and less likely to divorce than the rest of the population, with two-parent families that remain intact, replicating the statistics that existed before no-fault divorce, the pill and legalized abortion.” Doesn't the above Cahn and Carbone quote imply that "no-fault divorce, the pill, and legalized abortion" has contributed to the failure of many marriages!!! Lily H,

You fail to understand one of the main points Prof. Roback Morse was making: that for marriage to work at any age it needs to be supported. The only reason marriage is successful for older woman is because marriage is still acceptable for women of this age!! (Furthermore, Prof. Roback Morse suggested that Wal-Mart checker should help the future hubby manage the finances. You should read the article again more carefully. I think you will find the article very fair and insightful.)

It is absolutely hilarious that the Cahn and Carbone article is suggesting that the the statistics on the state of marriage are an implied “good” by saying that:

“The college educated, who postpone childrearing until the parents achieve a measure of financial self-sufficiency and emotional maturity, have become more likely to marry and less likely to divorce than the rest of the population, with two-parent families that remain intact, replicating the statistics that existed before no-fault divorce, the pill and legalized abortion.”

Doesn’t the above Cahn and Carbone quote imply that “no-fault divorce, the pill, and legalized abortion” has contributed to the failure of many marriages!!!

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Comment on FOCUS ON KIDS: Lonely fat kids by Obesity http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2006/09/focus-on-kids-lonely-fat-kids/comment-page-1/#comment-1741 Obesity Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:03:16 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=892#comment-1741 I have struggled with obesity all of my life and find this post warming I have struggled with obesity all of my life and find this post warming

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Comment on Striving for the Marriage Ideal: What Straight Divorce has to do with Gay ‘Marriage’ by Patty http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2006/05/striving-for-the-marriage-ideal-what-straight-divorce-has-to-do-with-gay-%e2%80%98marriage%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-1659 Patty Thu, 08 Sep 2011 01:26:26 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=997#comment-1659 Preach it sister! Straight people have built the coffin that marriage will be buried in if gay marriage becomes the law. I love this site. You all do such great work. Preach it sister! Straight people have built the coffin that marriage will be buried in if gay marriage becomes the law.

I love this site. You all do such great work.

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Comment on Destroying the Family Around the World by Ruth Institute Blog » David Cameron on the Family: Dr J on Issues Etc http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2007/06/destroying-the-family-around-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 Ruth Institute Blog » David Cameron on the Family: Dr J on Issues Etc Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:46:01 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=264#comment-1627 [...] My book review of Patricia Morgan’s book, The War Between the State and the Family.  This is still a good and timely book, which you can purchase through the IEA in the UK. [...] [...] My book review of Patricia Morgan’s book, The War Between the State and the Family.  This is still a good and timely book, which you can purchase through the IEA in the UK. [...]

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Comment on Single Mother By Choice? by Annette http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2010/01/single-mother-by-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-1607 Annette Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:01:52 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=211#comment-1607 I am in the difficult position of supporting a friend choosing SMBC by artificial insemination. Her life and her choice, which I feel obliged to respect. But in my heart, I am struggling with it. Though I can respect the principles of a woman's right to choose motherhood from a logical perspective, I'm having difficulty reconciling that logic with reality. She has never been successful in maintaining a relationship and she's afraid to be alone. Is she using a helpless child to fill the void in her life? Is this selfish? I love my friend dearly and hate feeling so weary. She will never be able to provide this child an example of the compassion and compromise required of a relationship. The child will never have a counterbalance in their life, an alternative perspective or soft place to land. All of the logical arguments and emotional sentiments in the world will not change this reality. I wish I felt differently for her sake... I am in the difficult position of supporting a friend choosing SMBC by artificial insemination. Her life and her choice, which I feel obliged to respect. But in my heart, I am struggling with it. Though I can respect the principles of a woman’s right to choose motherhood from a logical perspective, I’m having difficulty reconciling that logic with reality. She has never been successful in maintaining a relationship and she’s afraid to be alone. Is she using a helpless child to fill the void in her life? Is this selfish? I love my friend dearly and hate feeling so weary. She will never be able to provide this child an example of the compassion and compromise required of a relationship. The child will never have a counterbalance in their life, an alternative perspective or soft place to land. All of the logical arguments and emotional sentiments in the world will not change this reality. I wish I felt differently for her sake…

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Comment on Dr. Morse’s testimony to the Rhode Island legislature regarding Same Sex Marriage by A non-religious case against same-sex (gay) marriage « Wintery Knight http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2011/02/dr-morse%e2%80%99s-testimony-to-the-rhode-island-legislature-regarding-same-sex-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-1580 A non-religious case against same-sex (gay) marriage « Wintery Knight Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:02:23 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=1088#comment-1580 [...] SSM will increase the power of the state to regulate civil society and business. Let me quickly summarize the evidence for this to give you an idea how it would work, using Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse’s testimony to the Rhode Island legislature. [...] [...] SSM will increase the power of the state to regulate civil society and business. Let me quickly summarize the evidence for this to give you an idea how it would work, using Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse’s testimony to the Rhode Island legislature. [...]

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Comment on Family First by Finding the one (6): We have love we don’t need money « IyasOStuff http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2005/01/family-first/comment-page-1/#comment-1447 Finding the one (6): We have love we don’t need money « IyasOStuff Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:24:20 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=339#comment-1447 [...] I still haven’t figured that one out yet). You better make sure you are not planning to fail (divorce) by failing to [...] [...] I still haven’t figured that one out yet). You better make sure you are not planning to fail (divorce) by failing to [...]

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Comment on Cohabitation: Why Not? by Finding the one (4): Let’s test-drive each other « IyasOStuff http://www.marriagelibrary.org/2010/08/cohabitation-why-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1442 Finding the one (4): Let’s test-drive each other « IyasOStuff Mon, 04 Apr 2011 22:15:15 +0000 http://www.marriagelibrary.org/?p=972#comment-1442 [...] find it so hard to leave that loser, even though everyone tells you he is not the best for you. Go ahead and cohabitate, after all it’s your life! It’s not affecting anyone else (except your mom and dad, the other person’s parents, [...] [...] find it so hard to leave that loser, even though everyone tells you he is not the best for you. Go ahead and cohabitate, after all it’s your life! It’s not affecting anyone else (except your mom and dad, the other person’s parents, [...]

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